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                              VOLUME 13       NUMBER 1     APRIL 1973



                                                                                                2
    What's a                                  power Pout exceeds the reference
                                              power Pref is defined by
    dB and dBm?                                 N (in dB) = 10 log k
                                                                                                1


                                                                    Pref                        0

                                              N i s negative when   Pwt    is less than   %'
j   That's a question often asked in the      p,                                               -?
    service shop, especially when work-
    ing with high frequency signal            The non-linearity of logarithms can         -2

    Sources or measurement gear, such         be Seen by plotting it On linear
                                                                             graph
                                                                                          -3
    as a spectrum analyzer.                   paper. Assume we are measuring the
                                              output power of a variable gain
    The decibel (dB) i s an arbitrarily de-   amplifier. The input power (pref)
    fined unit of transmission gain (or       is held constant at watt.
    loss) that has come into general use                                           From the graph of log values (Figur
    since about 1925.Developed for use          s                                  I , we determine that the log of 2
                                                                                    )
     in the telephone industry, it was                                             is 0.3, and therefore the gain of the
     named the bel, in honor of the in-                                            above circuit i s 3 dB. Note that the
    ventor of the telephone, Alexander                                             plot i s a straight line (linear) because
     Graham Bell.                                                                  one scale of the graph is logarithmic.
                                                                                   Assume now that the output power
                                                                                   is 0.5 watts for the same 1 watt input
                                                                                   power. What i s the gain in dB?




                                              Note that when Pout equals Pref(that i




             was found to be very con-        Several very useful conversions
             for comparing two power          can be made:




                r, N, of dB by which the



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                                     dB AND dBm
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2. dB to Power Ratio                       A 6 dB gain corresponds to a power       4. dB to Voltage Ratio
The above procedure can be re-             change of 4:l. Verify this by calcu-     The above procedure can also be re-
versed by rearranging the formula          lating the power in the 2 volt and 1     versed by manipulating the formula.
and using anti-logs, the reverse of        volt signals.                                                  Gain (in dB)
logs.                                      Probably a more common use of this       Since L o gInp =           20
  Since log Pout - Gain (in dB)
            --                             equation is measuring the power          -
                                                                                    Eout
                                                                                               = antilog  Gain (in dB)
            Pin        10                  output variation in an amplifier vs.     Ein                          20
                                           frequency, gain, or other parameter.     or
                                                                                    Eout = Ein x antilog
                                                                                                          Gain (in dB)
                                           Assume you are testing an audio                                     20
Assume we have an amplifier with a         amplifier for frequency response. A
1 watt input and 13 dB gain. What i s                                               Let's assume that we want to verify
                                           reference input level is established     that a generator meets its output
the output power?                          at 1K Hz and a voltmeter connected       specifications of a maximum devia-
            -
  Pout = Pin Antilog -
                       13 dB
                         10
                                           to the output measures4.5 volts. The     tion of 2 dB from the peak. The point
                                           input signal amplitude is held con-      of peak output is identified and mea-
       = 1 * (antilog 1.3)                 stant as the frequency is varied from
       = 1 (20) = 20 watts                                                          sured at 2.1 volts. What voltage cor-
                                           20 Hz to 20K Hz. Let`s assume that       responds to a 2 dB drop from 2.1
The first three examples of use of the     the maximum voltage drop from the        volts?
log graph are diagramed on the             reference is observed at 20 Hz, with                          -2 dB
graph. Other values are similarly de-      3.57 volts being measured and the           E = 2.1 antilog -
                                                                                                           20
termined or can be obtained from           maximum voltage rise of 5.67 volts i s        = 2.1 (0.79)
log tables in reference texts.             observed at 3K Hz. Calculate the              = 1.66 volts
                                           output variation in dB.
3. Voltage ratio to dB                                                              5. Power to dBm
In many cases the measurement                 Gain (in dB) = 20 log VI
                                                                     -              All of the above are relativemeasure-
                                                                     Vref
made is in voltage, not power, since                                                ments. The dBm is an absolute mea-
voltage measuring instruments are            Drop (in dB) = 20 log 35 .7            surement because it i s referenced
often more available than power                                     4.5             to a power level of 1 mw. This means
measuring meters. It may be con-                          = 20 log (0.80)           that 1 mw = 0 dBm, which is true
venient to know the signal level in                       = 20 (-0.10)              regardless of the impedance of the
dB and the formula can be adapted                         = -2.0 dB                 system. Going back to the power
to this measurement, since power
                                             Rise (in dB) = 20 log 5.67
                                                                    -               ratio formula, let`s substitute 1 mw
- E2                                                                4.5             for Pref.
-ir                                                       = 20 log (1.26)           Absolute power level (in dBm) =
                                                          = 20 (0.100)
  Gain (in dB) = 10 l o gPout
                          p,                                                          10 log -  Pout
                                                          = 2.0 dB                             1 mw
                                 jEout)'
                                  Rout     Therefore, at the given power level,     Assume that an amplifier has an out-
                = 10 log
                                  (Ein)'   this amplifier has a +2 dB response      put of 4 mw. What is the output level
                                   Ein     from the 1 K Hz reference. Other         in dBm?
If the input and output impedances         problems of this type can be similarly     Absolute-   (in dBm) = 10 log 4 mw
                                                                                                                     -
are made up of equal resistances,          calculated.                                 level                          1 mw
this simplifies to                                                                                          = 10 log (4)
                                            A common, but technically incorrect,
                         Eout '             usage of dB.i s expressing the voltage
                                                                                                            = 10 (0.6)
   Gain (in dB) = 10 log in                                   .                                             = 6 dBm
Another mathematical rule transfers        #In of a C ' r U l t : wthnut regard
                                            impedance. For example, an ampli-       Another amplifier has an input lev>-
the squared term to the coefficient,        fier with an input impedance of 10K     of +4 dBm and an output of 0.02
yielding                                    ohms and an output impedance of         watts. What i s the gain of the am-
   Gain (in dB) = 20 log Eout               1K ohms may require a 10 mv input       plifier?
                           Ein
                                            to develop 1 volt at the output. In-    Let's first calculate the output level
It is important to note that the above      serting 1 volt and 10 mv in the for-    in dBm, noting that 0.02 watts equals
i s true only for equal impedances.         mula above yields a gain of 40 dB.      20 milliwatts.
Let's assume we have an amplifier           It i s important to note that this i s the
                                                                                    Absolute Level (in dBm)
which supplies a 2 volt output for a        voltage gain and not the power gain.                      = 10 log-20 mw
1 volt input. The input and output          The correct definition of dB i s the
impedances are equal. What i s the          ratio of two power levels.                                 = 10 log 20
gain in dB?                                 Use the voltages and impedances                            = 10 (1.3)
                         2v                 above to calculate input and output                        = 13 dBm
  Gain (in dB) = 20 log -
                           Iv               power, then use the formula #I An output of 13 dBm and an input
                = 20 log (2)                above to determine true dB gain. Do        of 4 dBm gives a gain of 9 dB. Note
                = 20 (0.3) = 6 dB           you get 50 dB?                             that the input and outputs are abso-

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                                          ,      Read power ratio on the display       NEED ASSISTANCE
                                                 To obtain actual power reading:
                        ive measurement.         Punch in reference powerIp            WITH
                                                                                                      1617)
                                                 Read power on display                 TRACE
                 equation can be trans-       3- VOhW Ratio to de:                     RECORD1NG?     5176
                     conversion of dBm           Punch in voltage reading
                                                 Punch in reference voltage read-      If you use an oscilloscope camera
                                                 ing.m  I B
                                                         P     am
                                                 Read dB on display
                                                                                       to record waveforms, you can now
                                                                                       " free technical assistance bv tele-
                                                                                       get
                                              4. dB to Voltage R;r%                    phone from Polaroid Corporahon.
                                                 Punch in dB
     How many watts correspond to a              m m
                                                  m                                    Trained technical experts will accept
                                                                                       all calls, including COLLECT calls,
     power level of +30 dBm?                     m@Im                                  from any point in the continental
                        -
       P (in mw) = (1) antilog 30-               Read voltage ratio on display
                                                 To obtain voltage reading:
                                                                                       United States. They can assist you
                               10                                                      with photographic techniques and
       = antilog 3 = la00                        Punch i n reference voltage read-
                                                                                       problems, or recommend hardware
       Power     = 1 watt                        ing 0                                 to mate a particular camera/oscillo-
                                                 Read voltage on display               scope combination.
     There exist zero references other        5. Power to dBm:
     than 1 mw. A dBV is defined using                                                 Polaroid's Technical Assistance Line
     one volts as the reference level.           Punch in power reading (in
                                                 milliwatts) I i @ 0
                                                              )  3
                                                                 J                     -(617) 547-5176 provides rapid ac-
     Audio experts will be familiar with                                               cess to information, without charge,
     dBA, where a standard sound level        6. dBmtomw:                              to users of Polaroid's industrial
     is used as a reference. Some high           Punch in dBm                          cameras and instant-developingfilms
     power areas use dBk, which is a mea-       mlamDEl@m                              in a wide variety of disciplines. This
     surement referenced to one kilowatt.        Read power (in milliwatts) on         service is available any weekday,
                                                 display.                              except holidays, from 9:OO a.m. to
     While other methods of reference
     exist for absolute levels, using dBm     The graph on page 7 may be helpful       5:OO pm., Eastern Time. Customers
     appears to be most common for            in converting signal levels in dBm or    in Canada, Europe and elsewhere
     electronic measurements.                 watts tovolts. This conversion can be    can place prepaid calls or write to
                                              calculated for any impedance using       Richard Jagolta, Polaroid Technical
     A graph designed to be cut out of        ohms law; several of the more            Assistance, 549 Technology Square,
     the issue i s included on page 7 for a   common impedances are included           Cambridge, Massachusetts 02139.
     handy reference for voltage-dBm          on the conversion chart for con-
     conversion.                              venience of use.                         NEW TO-3 INSULATOR
                                              Precise calculations of the dBm to
                                              voltage chart for 50 ohm and other
                                              impedances can be obtained with
                                              the following steps:
     All of                                      Punch in dBm readin E
     the above                                   a@Hmmobm
     calculations
     can be
                                                 arnmwmm
                                                 Punch in impedancem                   Here is something of interest if you
     made on the                                 Read voltage (in volts) on display.   have ever crawled under a work-
     HP 35 mini-                              While the HP 80 business version         bench looking for a transistor in-
     calculator.                              minicalculator does not have a m         sulator dropped while changing a
                                              function, the logarithms of a num-       transistor. A one-piece insulator is
                                              ber can be computed with the fol-        available that replaces six individual
                                              lowing sequence:                         pieces used in some HP products.
                                                 mmmm                                  Two sizes are available to accommo-
     1 Power ratio to dB:
      .                                          Punch in number I                     date various heat sink thicknesses.
        Punch in 1st power level                 I IF
                                                  [T 1                                 Part number 0340-0795has shoulders
       E                                         Punch in 2.3025 El                    for a 3/16inch or thicker metal and is
       Punch in reference power level            Read log on display                   priced at 15 cents. For thinner
       mmmm                                   The other functions are similar. Note    metals, use 0340-0503,priced at 25
        Read answer on the display            that the HP 80 has a I function          cents.
     2. dB to Power Ratio:                    while the HP 35 has the  m.   There-     Having a small stock of these avail-
                                              fore, to calculate antilogs with the     able may prove economical because
                                              HP 80, push       I    where the HP      of the time saved when replacing
                                              35 instructions call for                 a transistor.

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    A "NOT-SO-NEW"                      not worry about in-between states!        1. The OFF state of any transistor,
                                        Here's the method:                        FET, or SCR can be obtained by either
   TROUBLESHOOTING                      Try to force the circuit to change
                                                                                  opening the collector or emitter (in a
                                                                                  case where you are not sure that the
       TECHNIQUE                        states (opposite to whatever stage        devise i s good), or shorting the
                                        it is presently locked in) and deter-     emitter base junction. Shorting the
         by Dan Struckmann
                                        mine whether or not the circuit's         B-E of a transistor will cause it to turn
When your everyday techniques of        reaction to the change is correct.        off and the collector should float
troubleshooting seem to run you in                                                toward the supply voltage, indicating
circles, pick up a clip lead and a      1. If the result does indeed corres-
                                        pond with what you had initially          that the transistor is at least func-
voltmeter!
1 am sure that most of us on the
bench have picked up or developed       functional.
                                                            a
                                        decided, there is a ood chance that
                                        the active devices a er that point are
                                                                                  tional. In the case of an SCR or
                                                                                  thyristor, either disconnect the cath-
                                                                                  ode or anode or disconnect the gate
our own troubleshooting tech-                                                     lead. Disconnectingthe gate will also
niques. Some form of logical half-      2. If the result does not correspond      show if the SCR i s shorted.
splitting with scope waveforms,         with what you had initially decided,
                                        generally one or more of the active       2. An ON state of any device is sim-
voltage checks and board substitu-                                                ulated by shorting the emitter
tion is usually employed to trace the   devices after that point are defective.
                                                                                  to collector, anode to cathode, or
problem down to board level. At this    Continue in this manner, half-            drain to source. For a transistor to be
point, how does the technician find     splitting as you go along until a sim-    ON, the E-B junction must be for-
the one or two defective parts in a     ple circuit i s left.                     ward biased, which should cause a
23-transistor, direct-coupled, dual     Three very important points must          correspondingly low voltage drop
closed-loop monster? (A pre-regu-       be stressed. First, be sure that any      across the E-C junction.
lated, regulated, constant voltage,     forced response you may initiate will
constant current programmable                                                     With the above in mind, do what is
                                         not damage any other components.         necessary to put the device in the
power supply fits this description).     Be especially careful in high power
                                                                                  state you desire.
This is when the technician steps       circuits such as output drivers and
back with some basic circuit logic       high current power supplies. Sec-        In many instances, forcing a given
and an understandingof the unit and     ond, do not look for any change any       response might damage other com-
 narrows the region of probable cause   farther along in the circuit than you     ponents and caution must be exer-
 to' reduce troubleshooting time.       can logically justify; for example,       cised. Rotating adjustment pots in
                                         don't look for a level change in the     the circuits may be used to cause a
With the knowledge of the on-off                                                  change. When this i s not possible,
 characteristics of transistors, ex-    output when the output stage is AC
                                         coupled. Third, keep in mind that        use your voltmeter to measure E-B
 amine each stage of the circuit in                                               and E-C to identify the defective
 question to determine how each         you are looking for simple responses
                                         such as go, no-go, high or low           device.
 stage would function if everything
were working properly. Using this        levels, etc.                             Now let's consider a few practical
 technique, we can usually neglect      The means by which you force your         examples. Looking at Figure 1, you
 all closed feedback loops, and need     response i s as follows:                 will notice a differential amplifier and




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      associated states, all direct-coupled.       open, Q could be shorted, or the
                                                             1                                METRIC MULTIPLlER
      This circuit is powered by positive          input level could be wrong also.
      and negative supplies and it is quite        So we have several possibilities, any      PREFIXES
      difficult, if not impossible, to deter-     of which singly or in combination
                                                  could cause our problem. Just look-         Here's a handy reference listing of
      mine either correct voltage levels or                                                   all the multiplier prefixes currently
      the logic state of a device. It may be       ing at voltage levels many times leads
                                                  to confusion. The clip lead technique       being used. This may prove helpful
      noted also that this type of circuitry
                                                   lends itself very nicely here because      when working with unfamiliar units
      usually has one or more feedback
                                                   it gives us definite good/bad ans-         or trying to determine conversions,
      loops tied in. Let's assume that the                                                    such as how many nano seconds are
      voltage at Point B is negative with         wers, with no guess work! That is,
                                                                                              in one microsecond. Or what is the
      respect to Point A (which is incorrect)     we do not have to guess what all the
                                                   inputs or outputs may be, because          capacitance in microfarads of a IO00
      and we want to determine the cause.                                                     picofarad capacitor.
      Applying the method described               we can make the inputs or outputs
      earlier, determine first that forcing       look like we want them to. Many             Of course some of us who have
      Point B positive will not destroy any       times knowing what they are gives us        been around awhile will recognize
      following circuitry. Next determine a        no information. In the case above,         the picofarad (which is        farad)
      good point to "half-split" the circuit.      we could short E-B of Q which1             used to be called micro micro farad,
      Let's choose the collector of QIA.           should make the collector of Q go1         and this is a good clue.
      Determine what state QIA must be             high. This should turn on 42, caus-
      in to force 4 3 "on," thus pulling           ing i t s collector to go low. Again,
      Point B positive. A glance tells us          given only the Q 2 collector was
      that QIA must be turned on. So,              high, we could tell whether or not
      let's simulate that by using a clip lead     4 2 was bad without making any
      to connect the emitter of QIA to             other voltage measurements. You
      i t s collector. If the level at Point B     have probably discovered that a
      does not change, we know that                feedback system is difficult to repair
      either 4 3 or Q16 is bad. Point C is         because there are so many variables
      positive and the circuitry at or before     to consider when trying to decide
      Q is probably good (neglecting
         1                                        what is happening.                          Do you want to test yourself?
      more obvious power supply prob-             The suggested approach is to force a        7. How manynanosecondsare inone
      lems at this point).                        transistor or other active element to          microsecond?-
       If point B had gdne positive instead,      some state. Then we know if the next        2. A electronic frequencycounter has
      we would have known that Q or the
                                      1           element i s doing what it is supposed          displayedameasurementof7.4532
      circuitry before Q had failed. The
                            1                     to be doing, which is much better              GHz. What is this reading in KHz?
      same technique i s used to continue         than guessing if the output is correct
      the isolation process.                      after looking at all the inputs. With
                                                  the complexity of instruments and           3. What i s the capacitance in micro-
      This technique is especially valuable                                                      farads o f a 7000 pf capacitor?
       in closed loop systems (or any circuit     systems today, the technician i s not
      with feedback) because it gives a           afforded the luxury of guessing!
       known input to a stage and a given         With a little practice and some in-         4. One inch equals 2.540 cm How
      output reaction can be expected. The        genuity (one experienced technician            many millimeters is this? -
       loop can be traversed in the forward        uses a desoldering tool instead of a
       or reverse direction, verifying the        clip lead), a "not-so-new" tool may
                                                                                                  Answers to Metric Multiplier Quiz
       proper operation of each stageTuntil        b e added to your trade techniques.
       the defective stage is identified.          It is the extra speed and expertise
      An example of a simple feedback cir-         gained by using techniques like this
       cuit is given below in Figure 2.           that separate the outstanding repair-
                                                   man from the average technician and
                                                   keep him growing with the tech-
                                                   nology.
                                         OUTPUT   Dan Struckmann is a technician currently
                                                  working in the computer peripherals
      INWT                                        design laboratory at the Cupertino Divi-
                                                  sion of Hewlett-Packard. Dan joined HP
                                                  in 1971 and worked at the'corporate
                                                  customer repair center in Mountain
                        v-     v-   v-
                                                  View. Besides finding time for ham radio,
                                                  radio-controlled airplanes, and stereo,
      Let's assume the voltage at the COl-        Dan is attendingsan JoseState University
      lector of 4 2 is higher than specified.     working on a degree in electrical engi-
      What could cause this? 4 2 could be         neering.

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                     .-       FE T CHECK E Ri UN G RO UN D E D CHASSIS



MOR                                     Several of you         asssced. about a
                                        circuit for the square wawe genera-
ON FET                                  tor, and here is one idea. Most
                                        oscil          have a 10 volt P to P
CHECKER                                 squa           calibration signal, but
                                        on many oscilloscopes it is often
                                        negative going and clamped $0
b y George Stanley                      ground. We need it DC coupled
                                        and swingin around zero. You can
Oops!, is our face red, You may
have noticed in `the November issue
                                                         %
                                        use a 5 volt attery or power supply
                                        to move it up, but that's a bit awk-
(Vol. 12, No. 4) that there was an      ward. Figure 5 shows a more novel
error in Figure 4, the FET Tester.      approach.
Shown below i s the way the figure
should have been.                       The idea here is filter the square            If any of you have any other ideas,
                                        wave to obtain -5 VDC, and then               send them in and 1'11 pass them
                                        use this voltage as an offset voltage.        along. I'm still looking for a simple
                                        The on1 drawback is that you need             square wave circuit that puts out a
                                                    L
                                        a two< annel oscilloscope that is
                                        capable of presentingan A-B display.
                                                                                      DC coupled 10 volt square wave
                                                                                      centered at zero.




               CORRECTED
                                           ov-
Here is a tip p u probably figured
out for yourself. In order to obtain
the waveforms shown in Table 2,
                                         -10v   -
Page 2, of the November issue, you
must have your oscilloscope DC
coupled.


UNGROUNDED CHASSIS                      power line noise out of the genera-           conductor makes contact before
                                        tor, but it also places a 6OV rms             the ground conductor, the capaci-
ARE DANGEROUS                           signal on the chassis! This is 169V           tors get discharged through the
                                        p-p (relative to earth ground).               input circuitry. Oqen the damage
                                                                                      specification is exceeded and the
                                                                                      input circuitry is destroyed.
                                                                12W RYS TO EARTH
                                                                QROUND
                                                                                      Another problem becomes evident
                                                                                      when the operator places one hand
                                                                                      on the ungrounded chassis and the
                                                                                      other on a grounded chassis. The
                                                                ZERO VOLTS TO EARTH   169V p-p signal may prove to be
                                                                QROUND StNCE TmS
                                                                I THE NEUTRAL
                                                                S                     too much of a jolt!
Why does an ungrounded signal                                                         The danger of an ungrounded signal
source pose a threat to an input        The capacitors act as an A-C divider          source damaging other instruments
circuit? This is the question some-     network, since one side of the line           and injuring personnel can also be
times asked after the input circuitry   i s at ground potential. The chassis          alleviated with a three-wire line cord,
to a counter or other instrument has    thus has a 169V p-p 60 Hz signal              so the chassis is connected to earth
been destroyed.                         on it.                                        ground.
Some companies sell inexpensive         This may cause no problem when                The above comments also apply to
signal generators that do not use a     the counter is connected to this              instruments (including HP) where a
three wire tine cord, which means        signal source if the ground connec-          three-wire cord exists, but the third
that the chassis is not connected to    tions on the input connector make             wire is not grounded. If you must
earth ground. Generally, each side       contact before the center conductor.         use a three-wire to two-wire NEMA
of the power line will be connected     The charges on the two capacitors             adaptor (sometimes called a suicide
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to chassis with a small capacitor,       get shunted through the ground               plug), be certain that the green
typical 0.1 pF. This helps keep          circuit on the counter. If the center        connects to a good ground.

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                                    dBm TO VOLTAGE CONVERSION


     +40                                                                               10

                                                                                             watts
     +30                                                                                1


     +20                                                                              100


     +10                                                                                      mllllwatts
                                                                                       10
                                                                                             (lo-* watts)


       0                                                                                1


     -10                                                                              100


     -20                                                                               10    microwatts
                                                                                             ($o-~watts)


     -30                                                                                1
                                                                                                      paIHIER

     -40                                                                              100
 m
                                                                                              nano watts
     - 50                                                                              10
                                                                                             (10-9 watts)


     -80                                                                                1


     - 70                                                                             100


                                                                                              plco watts
     - 80                                                                              10
                                                                                            (lo-'* watts)


     -90                                                                                1


  -100                                                                                100
                                                                                            femto watts
                                                                                            (10-l~
                                                                                                 watts)
  -110                                                                                 10


  -120


 a
           1 pv   10 pv    100 pv     1 mv         10 mv   100 mv      1v      10 v
                                             VOLTAGE




To convert dBm to voltage, move to the right from the dBm scale to the line
representing the impedance of the circuit being measured. Then move down
and read the signal strength on the voltage scale. Use the reverse procedure
to convert voltage to dBm.                                                                  m
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A power scale has also been provided to allow conversion from voltage to
power or dBm to power. Note that the relationship between power and dBm                 6iNCH 6RliP
does not depend on circuit impedance.                                                   APRIL 1973

For example, -30 dBm (which is 1 microwatt for all impedances) is 7mv for a
50Q impedance, but it is a 24 mv for a 600Q impedance.

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